And this is the story of his amazing rescue!
Note from the Author:
The Lister story is made up of various posts from the Saluki Minpin List - and hopefully present an accurate version of how the rescue took place. Some posts have been edited to maintain relevance to the Lister story ... if this offends, please let me know. If anyone feels that some events were omitted, or need to be deleted, please email me at firstname.lastname@example.org. There was a lot email on this list (as I'm sure all list members will agree) over the "rescue week", and condensing the story has been fun but a lot of work!! If anyone wants info on how to join the Greatest Minpin email list, please email Petie Durand at email@example.com. Hope you enjoy the story...
|The message that started it all...
Subject: [minpins] HELP needed for 6 month old in SW Florida!!!!!!!!
Fwd From: Melissa
>> have just received a call about a Min Pin that needs
We've got a couple of homes up here in Wisconsin, but this baby needs help as soon as POSSIBLE and hopefully local experienced help!!!! Can anyone in the area contact Melissa and try to save this little one???
|The mission begins...
Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:53:20 EDT
Just sent an e-mail. Can't take a 4th myself, but I'll try to assist. Will
advise if I receive word back.
Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:27:51 EDT
Rec'd. a message back from Melissa and have sent another requesting specifics.
Again, I can't personally take this pup, but I might be able to temporarily
assist. If anyone else can or if you know how we can permanently place him,
please advise. I'm really concerned about his being in a garage ~ I'm in
Naples (have no idea where he is yet) and it's 95 here during the day. TOO
HOT to be in an enclosed, un-airconditioned area. If I can get him, I can
provide a very temporary home for him, but I can't keep him ~ any help out
there?? I've never tried to rescue a pup and I'm a bit frightened ~ I can't
end up with four (I'm pushing it in my development with three and with 4 I'd
have to apply for a kennel license ~ FL law).
Mon, 6 Jul 1998 17:37:08 EDT
Found out that the little guy is in Ft. Myers ~ about 30 minutes from me. Melissa indicated that people have offered to provide 'foster care' as I have, but that they're looking for a permanent home. I'm all for that, but I also indicated that the top priority should be to get him out of a hot garage. I asked for particulars on him and I'll contact vets and the shelters in my area to see if they have a 'waiting list' for Minpins. I know that a male was placed here in Collier County (Ft. Myers is within Lee County) last week within 24 hrs. of being dropped off at a shelter. I'll continue to advise. I want this poor fellow out of that garage (trust me, it's too damned hot down here for that) !
Susan & the girls (who would just love a little brother to boss around if Mama would agree!)
P.S. ~ I would, but all five of us would be looking for a new home ;)
Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:52:32 -0500
If they were closer I would take him in a minute, but there is no way my husband will allow me to dish out the money for the air-fare. If push comes to shove let me know and I'll work something out.
Mon, 6 Jul 1998 17:32:04 -0500
I am in Fisher, IL about 10 miles NW of Champaign,IL (University of IL) Does any of this ring a bell with you?
Mon, 6 Jul 1998 18:52:03 EDT
No, I'm a Bostonian relocated to Naples, FL via Palos Verdes, CA!
They're looking for a permanent home for this little fellow. From what I know so far, he's about 5-6 months old, not housebroken and without shots (which ones, I've got no clue). I'm waiting for additional info such as color, AKC papers, history, etc. I definitely can't take him (have three already), but I'm hellbent on getting him out of that hot garage. I'll continue to post to the list as I get additional info. There's a home somewhere for him and I hope we find it quickly.
Susan & the girls
Mon, 6 Jul 1998 17:57:05 -0500
He has a home if we can get him here somehow!!!!!!!!
Mon, 6 Jul 1998 20:21:43 EDT
Just to advise all: I've gotten info on shipping the pup to Indianapolis from Ft. Myers and have advised Terri. Basically it's $170 plus a record of shots and health certificate. He'd also need a carrier of some sort. I have no idea what the current owner would consider doing if anything, or if they have a crate. I'll follow up with Melissa on what low cost shots, etc. might be available. It would be wonderful to get this little fellow on his way to a loving home. Susan & the girls
Mon, 6 Jul 1998 20:38:51 EDT
At this point, I'd just like to get the poor dog out of there. It's too hot to put a pup in a garage down here (95 degrees daily). If this owner is doing it now, what will he/she do in the future? Terri in IL has offered a home and we're currently researching how to get him there. Anyone interested in taking up a collection to prepare and ship him?? Susan & the girls
Mon, 06 Jul 1998 20:18:29 -0500
Is anyone coming up from Florida for the Specialty in Waukesha? I could pick him up in Waukesha and take him to Champaign if we can work this out, or we could ask the Canine Underground Railroad for a transport run if that sounds feasible!! The rottie people could probably transport as well, I have several friends in Florida and I actually know someone who will be flying down there and back in a week or so!!
Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:23:41 EDT
OK Terri, my husband is from Champaign and I live in Florida so I feel some tie here....I'll contribute $20 towards his airfare. Tell me where to send the check and it's on it's way. Pat
Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:38:37 EDT
you betcha. I started to email then thought you all might think I'm crass. I
betch if we chipped him $5.00 a piece we could get him out of the garage and
to Terri. I would be glad to chip in some cash and could spare more than the
mentioned amount if needed. Come on list lets here from you......thanks
Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:41:09 -0400 (EDT)
I'll do $20 also, just let me know where to send it! As for shots - PetSmart has them at a fraction of the cost vets charge. Check on their hours; the one here has recently started remaining open 7 days a week instead of every other Sunday. Might cut cost a bit. As for a crate - I've found mine in the Classified sections of the local newspaper - maybe that would work??
Jean, Rado, and Taz
Mon, 06 Jul 1998 21:21:00 -0500
I'm in for $20 as well - this is so nice!!!! And Terri - I'll get a money
Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:22:19 EDT
Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:33:23 EDT
Susan, would it be cheaper to get this little fellow to Mississippi from Fort Myers. If so, I'll keep him until I find him a good home.(unless I fall in love with him like I did Cody) If not, I'll contribute $25.00 toward his fare to Terri. Let me know where and when you need a check.
Kaye & the 3 C's. (one more on 20 acres is not a problem)
Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:38:43 EDT
Susan and Terri, if contributions will help, I will personally send a check for $25 to Terri to help with the costs of getting him OUT of that garage, some people have no brains, and it looks like another human being needs to buy a clue about the responsibility of another life. They have feelings just as we humans do, and this boy needs to be with Terri to be loved and cared for as all animals should be, please e-mail me privately if you wish, and the check will be in Indianapolis in record time...Vivian and her 4 beloved angel MinPins, (and if I had room, that child would be in my house yesterday...)
Mon, 6 Jul 1998 23:08:31 EDT
I would be more than willing to send a crate if it will help. However;
someone needs to tell me where to send the crate.
Mon, 6 Jul 1998 23:18:21 EDT
I would be happy to help out, since the fellow needs a health check and all and has to go to the vet for that wouldn't it be wise to have him neutered at that time also before he goes to his new home?
Mon, 6 Jul 1998 23:53:55 EDT
If the puppy can be neutered before shipping him I will be glad to put in
$20.00. Also, I could send a crate down there by UPS, it would take about 7-8
days and then hopefully whoever ends up with him would send it back to me.
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 01:09:55 EDT
I"m in for $20 too, I also e-mailed Jayme about the little guy. Let me know
where to send it, check or money order.
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 06:03:37 EDT
you can count us in for 25.00 please tell me where to send the money and if
check or money order. Please advise. This pup will be like a foster child
for all on this list and we will be delighted to be posted on his
progress....Pam and Friends
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 01:09:55 EDT
I"m in for $20 too, I also e-mailed Jayme about the little guy. Let me know where to send it, check or money order.
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 06:03:37 EDT
you can count us in for 25.00 please tell me where to send the money and if check or money order. Please advise. This pup will be like a foster child for all on this list and we will be delighted to be posted on his progress....Pam and Friends
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 07:18:10 -0400 (EDT)
Susan - another thought; if the Underground doesn't work out, what about checking on flights out of West Palm Beach Airport. I'd be able to get the shots at PetSmart over here, and if the flights are less expensive that would work out also, especially if I'm bringing over the crate.
Off to work I go!
Jean, Rado, and Taz
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 06:42:00 -0500
This is Terri... I must say I'm really leaning toward the underground.
First off I've never dealt with an airport on my own ever, I dont even know
how all that works. Does the flight need to be paid for in Florida before
he boards the plane or Do I pay for the flight when I pick him up in Indy???
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:01:40 EDT
I tried the two that I was told had the service from Ft. Myers to
Indianapolis. Terri originally asked for Savoy, but no one goes there from
Ft. Myers. Today I'll be working on getting him physically out of that
garage, so if anyone else would like to step in and call an airline for a
better price, please feel free to do so. Thanks to everyone for all of your
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:07:17 EDT
<< Anyone have any "frequent flyer miles" to trade in for a ticket? >>
Do they do that for cargo? I've got some American miles, but they don't fly
that route according to my call to them last night. We're looking at US Air,
or possibly Delta ~ I never did get through to anyone at Delta (wrong numbers,
fax numbers, useless agents on the people reservation line).
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:41:58 EDT
Ok, assuming that we're his salvation, you can e-mail me privately for my address to send contributions to his medical care (neutering, etc.) and shipping costs. I've advised Terri of my address should anyone wish to contact her directly. If for some reason, this falls through, I will send the checks back. To all those interested in funding this effort, please know that the checks will be cashed and funds applied towards his medical care and shipping costs ~ I applaud all who want to help for either neutering or airfare, but it would be too difficult to specifically set aside someone's money for a particular purpose. Agreed? If there are any overages (boy, I hope we get enough to have overages!), I'll leave it up to the group contributing as to how we handle it. I will also provide, to any who request it, an accounting of funds.
Thanks again, everyone for your kindness and cooperation. It's a great feeling to be involved in an effort that is so worthwhile ~ I wonder if our little garage fellow knows that we're all out there working towards his happiness. We've got to find out his name!
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 13:43:14 +0100
UPS takes crates with just a tag on them.....Delta Dash would be the best
way to fly...I'll contribute $25.
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:09 -0500
There is a CUR run for a greyhound coming out of Orlando to Lexington, KY which the puppy could tag along on, then it would be a matter of getting him from Lexington up to illinois, which is usually a pretty easy area to cover. This run would be leaving July 18th, which gives enough time to get the neutering and the health checks done.
I did hear from Melissa and they still need to check to make sure that an out of state adoption is allowed by their agency, plus they will need an application from Terri, Terri if you want to contact me I can do a standard rescue application for you and send it to Melissa.
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:51:38 EDT
<< > Terri, has anyone told you lately what a GREAT person you are? Linda & Gang >>
Yup ~ I did last night! ;) Susan
Note from the Author:
There were many other contributions not listed here - money, advice, support, etc... Too many to list here at this time. When I find more time, I will try and include the people who missed out! Sorry, I didn't leave you out on purpose!!
|Out of the garage!!!
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 13:59:18 EDT
Got word from Melissa that she and Judie from the so-called 'no kill' group are picking the pup up, probably as I write this. They'll identify the pup (purebred or not) and advise. The owner described it as being a Miniature Pinscher that was small enough to pick up with one hand. Well that would describe my 7 lb. Lucy, but as Petie says, who knows.
Anyway, Melissa will foster the dog for the short term and I'll find out what else to do. She indicated that an out-of-state adoption is fine, but they want a rescue contract. I told her that Liz was going to help Terri complete one.
I've asked Melissa if I could see the pup also ~ for my own peace of mind and to speak intelligently to the group. I don't know who she is or where she lives, but I'll try to work that out.
STAY TUNED!! HE'S OUT OF THE GARAGE!!!!
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 13:06:19 -0500
HORRAY,,,WHIPPIE,,,,,GREAT JOB!!!!!!!!! Pat on the back and a hug around the neck. I posted earlier that I had accidently deleted a post with information on rescue application. I despratley need the info re-posted. Susane, if anyone on your end with the rescue needs my e-mail Please give it to them... If needed I can supply my phone number on private e-mail. Oh, Bless you and all your help. If I had a tail it would be wagging!!!!!
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 13:39:08 -0500
I finally got through to Delta Dash at Petie's suggestion. Heres the scoop, Good news first. A 16x17 flight approved crate can be purchased for $45.00 and the flight will cost $95.63 from Frt Myers to Indy. So we're looking at a total of $104.63. (Good deal)
Bad news. They are on a heat restriction and will not transport live cargo intill further notice.:-(
I'll keep trying on this end.
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:48:35 EDT
What luck! Oh well, we'll find a way around that too I'm sure. Just look
what this group can accomplish.
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:08:10 -0500
I got ahold of US Air, they can fly him from Frt Myers to Champaign IL. If we provide the crate it will be $170.00 Counter-Counter. He would leave Frt Myers on a 8:30am flight in be in Champaign at 3:25. They said they can have him on a flight on the 15th, but I told the lady I was speaking with that he needed to see a vet first, possibly be neutered. This sounds about the best so far, this gets him within 11 miles of me. Of course his health certificate will need to be transported with him and it has to be as recent as 10 days prior to the flight.
|He's a minpin!
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:32:13 EDT
Heard from Melissa that he is a minpin and we're working out an arrangement
for me to see him.
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 15:37:21 -0500
That is wonderful, but in my heart I always knew it, and at this point I wouldnt care. I would take him anyway.
Terri (lots of grins)
|He has a name!
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 15:44:22 EDT
This rescue is going to be one of the greatest ever know to mankind! The efforts to help this dog is not only remarkable but also illustrates the commitment min pin owners have to this breed.
Congrats to everyone on this list who is participating in the effort, you're all heroes! Maybe this dog should be named Lister!
PS: Can we please have this done or a final solution before Saturday otherwise I'm going to be trying to stop at every town and village between here (El Paso) and Chicago knocking on doors so that I can borrow a computer to sign on and find out what happens!
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:45:38 EDT
When I meet him I'll take a few pictures, develop and scan them and e-mail
them to his new mom & all his godparents ~ upon request of course ~ don't want
Petie getting upset with me trying to post pics to the list. Perhaps someone
with a webpage would put it on that.
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 17:06:24 EDT
It's too early to call right now. A lot will have to do with timing and
what's best for the pup ~ at least that's what I would think. I'd personally
like to get him in and out of foster care and into your arms, Terri, as
quickly as possible. At this point, we don't know how many homes he's had.
He's still young and to me every day is important. The sooner he's in his
permanent home ~ adjusting, socializing, etc. ~ the better off he'll be. So,
those are my thoughts. Assuming we have the funds, if I have the ability to
make the call, I'd like to make it based upon timing and his welfare.
[minpins] Fwd: Excitement!/letter to Melissa
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 17:40:23 EDT
Thought everyone should have a chance to read this.
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 17:33:56 EDT
Tue, 7 Jul 1998 19:41:55 EDT
Please forgive me all, but I need to go lie down. I've been on-line for what
seems like forever at this point (for a very worthwhile cause). Melissa and
Judie (the people who have "our" pup) have my phone number. I've asked via e-
mail that they contact me asap to arrange for me to meet him and to attempt to
finalize adoption plans on behalf of Terri with the full support of our group
Wed, 8 Jul 1998 05:26:49 -0500
I decided last night, if and when, the time comes "Lister" is finally here. I will photograph the whole thing. Right from us leaving my house, going to the airport (if he travels by air), us seeing him for the first time. The trip home, and him seeing his new house. Him meeting my boys and seeing his sister K.C. for the first time. So if anyone wants to do the "rescue web-page" you'll have the whole story.
Terri & K.C.
Wed, 8 Jul 1998 08:49:36 EDT
Last night I climbed into bed with my three girls and didn't wake up until the
wee hours. Then had 71 posts to read.
Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:36:12 EDT
Ok, here's the scoop as of this morning.
I called the number I found in the directory for the "no kill" group and personally talked to Judie ~ she picked up the phone as I was leaving a second message. She's trying to get in touch with the current owner again today and intends to go out and get Lister. She doesn't suspect a problem at this point and she's still not 100% certain he's a minpin (Melissa indicated to me yesterday, via e-mail, that he was). After a rather lengthy conversation, she agreed to allow us to take Lister and place him. She even asked me what vet I wanted to use for Rabies shot, heartworm testing, etc. (she'll administer the other puppy shots).
I then asked her about Melissa ~ get this, they've never met either. So, I'm getting e-mails from Melissa who, at this point, is only talking to Judie. My comfort level is going down the tubes here. Anyway, both of them have my cell phone number and I'm praying that someone calls me soon. If not, I'll be leaving another message on Judie's phone. Liz, do you know who Melissa is and how I can reach her other than e-mail? Melissa had originally told me that she would foster Lister, but now Judie is asking me what vet I want to use ~ so somehow Judie, Melissa and I have to come to a meeting of the minds. Right now, I want Lister with me. Actually, since no one has seen him, he could be a figment of someone's imagination for God's sake!
So, everyone, there you have it. If someone could enlighten me as to who Melissa is I'd truly appreciate it. All I know is she signs her e-mails Melissa, Doxie Haven. At least I've SPOKEN to Judie and I have a clue as to who she is and what she does.
If anyone has any travel agent contacts, would someone be willing to investigate a roundtrip ticket with a dog in a sherpa bag from Ft. Myers to somewhere close to Terri (a major airport with non-stop or direct flights to/from Ft. Myers would be preferable)? I'm considering it ~ no promises though ~ as I indicated in an earlier post, I'm scheduled for surgery on the 16th and won't know how I'll feel until it happens. Would the group agree to allow use of the contributed money for the fare (assuming it was cheap)? Or perhaps Terri or one of her family could fly here?? Or does anyone know of anyone who is flying those routes that would do us a favor and transport Lister?? Just thoughts...
That's it for now ~ I'm beyond frustrated at this point ~ I'll update with
times in the subject line so everyone can identify those posts. THANKS ALL!
Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:31:27 -0500
Still Praying in Fisher,
Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:33:20 EDT
Just got of the phone with Melissa. Judie picked him up and he's going
directly to the vet. He'll be examined, given shots, and neutered
immediately. I have the number for the vet and will call to find out when I
can pick him up (yes, I'm picking him up and will foster him until we can get
him to you ~ quickly I hope). He's black & tan ~ slightly oversized but
malnurished (12 lbs.).
Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:41:51 -0500
What a relief....I have never been let down so fast and picked back up again so quickly. God Bless you Susane....I really dont know what to say. You without a doubt have golden wings.
Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:43:32 EDT
THIS TIME HE'S DEFINITELY OUT OF THE GARAGE!!! I just got a call from Melissa. Judie picked up Lister and is heading to the vet with him. He's an oversized, but underweight (they didn't even feed him yesterday!!), black & tan minpin (puppy mill dog ~ I have three of those and they're all wonderful). The word I got was that he's to be neutered today. I'll be calling the vet soon to check on him and when he's ready, I'll pick him up. We've got to get busy now on a plan to get him to IL. I'd like to keep his trauma level to a minimum. That was Judie's thought, so that's why he's heading to the vet for all of the medical work ~
ANOTHER FLASH! I just got off the phone with the vet and I can pick him up at 5 pm TODAY!! I'll have a $200 plus vet bill, so please keep those contributions coming.
I'm going off line for awhile as they're supposed to be faxing me some paperwork and my fax is part of the computer, so I can't be on AOL & receive a fax at the same time. I'll sign back on when I can.
SUCCESS!!!! Someone please start working on the plan to get him to IL. Also, like I said, with a $200 vet bill, keep those contributions coming ;) THANK YOU!
Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:49:01 -0500
Mission Accomplished !!!!!!!!!
Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:56:03 -0500
I'm going to start calling travel agents right NOW, see what the cheapest round trip air-fare will be....This will really make my husband blow his top, but I've caused that before. If I can work it out I'll see if I can fly to Florida THIS SAT!!!! Susane, have room for a house guest????
WAGGIN MY NUBBINS CLEAN OFF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:21:32 EDT
Come on down! Your bedroom and your dog will await you! Susan
Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:06:55 -0500
I just recieved this from Milissa, This goes out to all of us. GOOD JOB EVERYONE !!!!!!!!!!
Dear Liz and Terri,
Good news! As Susan has probably informed the list, Lister is out of the garage at at the vet's this very moment!
Liz, thank you so much for all your help!!
Terri, congratulations on being a new mom!!!!
The pup, born Oct 31, 1997 is a b/t long-legged boy from a puppy mill. He was quite scared when rescued from the garage, but really opened up when he reached the vet's office. He was so happy to see dog-loving people!! :-) Susan will be able to pick him up at 5:00 today and I look forward to receiving progress every step of the way.
Words can't express how happy and relieved I am! We've earned our angel wings. Thank you so much for all your concern and support.
Love and best wishes,
|Rescued minpin heads for vacation in Naples!
....Susan & Lister
Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:19:46 EDT
His name is Orion (according to Judie it was the cat in Men in Black) which is the name of the movie company ~ Orion Pictures. I have a faxed copy of his AKC dog registration application. He came from what appears to be a backyard breeder ~ Samantha M. Jones, Lehigh Acres, FL. He's a bit older than we thought ~ birthday Oct. 31, '97 ~ which makes him 8 mos. old.
The vet's office said that he's very friendly and appears starved for attention/affection. No problem now! He'll get a ton of it here and when he gets home to IL. Basically within a day or so, he'll be ready for travel, so we should have some concrete plans made soon. I don't want him to get to used to me and my girls and then shake up his world again. I assume that I'm getting him with absolutely nothing ~ ie., crate, etc. If he doesn't have a collar or leash, I'll get him one.
I'm VERY THANKFUL for all of the help and support offered over the past 2 days and NOW MORE THAN EVER, I'm going to need everyone's help. We need some travel plans and we're probably looking at approx. $400 worth of expenses ~ $200 to the vet, then whatever it's going to cost for travel. In addition to my original contribution, I'll also cover his short term incidentals (collar, food, whatever). I'd love to be able to say that I'll cover everything, but I can't absorb that much myself right now. THANK YOU to all who have pledged contributions and if there's anyone else out there who'd care to help, please e-mail me privately and I'll gladly and gratefully supply my address. As I've said before, I will account for every penny donated and should there be an overage, the group will decide how to handle it.
I will be leaving my house by 4:30 to get to the vet to pick up Lister. Someone will stay home with the girls as I don't want to overwhelm the pup with the immediate welcome he'd receive. Additionally, I don't know how "under the weather" he'll be feeling. Since I'm not familiar with neutering males (I've owned about 9-10 dogs in my lifetime and all were spayed females), I'm going to chat with the vet re: anything I should be aware of.
Judie just called me ~ she's faxing me paperwork to sign and send back to her. She was quite clear that there will be no adoption fee charged (they usually charge 50-100 dollars) but that we're responsible for the vet bill (have credit card, will travel). The health certificate will list Terri's address as the final destination, as did the adoption paperwork I just signed and faxed back. Terri, I will get copies of everything to you in tomorrow's mail.
Isn't success just wonderful???
Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:03:12 EDT
I'm anxious and I might hit traffic, so I'm leaving now to get Terri's baby
boy. I'll post as soon as I get back, but won't be able to stay on long if
I'm going to care for him. Terri has my address should anyone need it for
contributions. Our other big project for tonight is to somehow make some
travel plans. Good luck to all. Wish me luck and most of all Orion/Lister.
By the way, what will he be called ~ Orion, Lister, something else???
Wed, 8 Jul 1998 18:06:33 EDT
I'm pleased to report that Lister (he's actually answering to it) is here and
doing well. I have a full medical report that I'll give to Terri, but the
short of it ~ no parasites, no heartworm, healthy given his past
circumstances. He's met my girls and is getting along with them. He looks
like my Lexus (face & body) but is skin and bones. Literally. He
really is VERY THIN. I can't over-emphasize that. His tale has been cropped,
but ears are natural. He's eaten already (wolfed it down) and I'm waiting
before giving him more ~ I don't want him to get sick. He also enjoyed a
Beggin Strip. I told him his new life started today and it will only get
better from here. Also, he's already fallen into my pool! He was walking out
on the lanai and just stepped right in. He swims! I plucked him out and he
licked my face and is enjoying being cuddled in a towel.
I don't want to spend a lot of time on-line and away from him, so Terri could
you please follow all of the posts and e-mail me the highlights directly? It
would save me tons of time and allow me to devote it to my new goddog. By the
way, he's been asking about his new mom.
Wed, 8 Jul 1998 18:32:33 -0500
I just heard from Susane, Lister is doing great!!! He is a real lover starved for affection and he is getting everything he has missed out on for so long. Susane said she's falling in Love and there is no way she can put him in a crate and see him into the plane alone. One way or another either Susane or I will hopefully be in the air.
|Lister Orion Saluki!!
Wed, 8 Jul 1998 21:47:04 EDT
I think the newspaper article is a WONDERFUL idea! GO FOR IT!!!! That's just
another exciting event to add to his webpage, which I think he should have his
very own site for all to visit and see what he went through. Someone posted
earlier that Orion meant "lucky star" so I think you should make it his middle
name cause he sure is lucky to have support from the Min Pin Listers!!!
Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:55:25 -0500
O.K. there you have it everyone this is his name...should I make his Last
name Saluki.com Terri
Wed, 8 Jul 1998 21:56:40 EDT
LISTER ORION SALUKI
Wed, 8 Jul 1998 21:56:40 EDT
LISTER ORION SALUKI
Wed, 8 Jul 1998 21:58:42 EDT
He was pretty grubby, so he's now clean and many q-tips (he loved that) and ear solution later ~ we've got clean ears. I don't think anyone ever did that for him ~ we could have grown a crop of some sort in the dirt that came out of his ears.
Incision sight looks good. He's been bopping around a bit, but basically is acting like my shadow. I've tripped over him several times already. Right now, he's curled up in my lap (smelling quite nice, I might add ~ much better than before), while my girls are staring at us from the couch. They're being nice to him, but they're major league pissed at me. Lily is staring me down ~ mama's lap is occupied by HIM! Goose is under the couch ~ I might never see her again, and Lexus is behind the couch (that's a first ~ I'm sure her intent was to go under it, but she can't fit). Terri, you've got to come get him before I have a mutiny on my hands ;)
My preference, obviously, would be to have Terri fly here this weekend and take him home in the manner to which he is becomming quickly accustomed. If that doesn't work and we have to ship him, I'm going to do it with my eyes closed. I don't think I could stand seeing him in a crate being taken away by some airline employee. Ugh!
The vet bill was $196.05, which included all tests (even an EKG), shots, health certificate, neutering. He's free of parasites including heartworm. He is pathetically thin, but I'm working on that. He's had a Beggin Strip, about a cup of dry dog food, water, and about 4 oz. of steak (medium rare, grilled to perfection, or so he said). Stool seemed ok, slightly soft, but much better than I had expected given the day he's had. Urinating normally (using my girls as the barometer).
If we have enough money, then I'm all for Terri getting on a plane if she can. I honestly would prefer to stay put with my girls. I'd hate to be gone for a day or two after having brought in a strange dog. My girls are one owner dogs ~ they don't function well when I'm not around. If she gets a $300 fare then we're up to just under $500. That's 25 people at $20. I have no idea at this point how many are contributing, but it doesn't seem that far out of reach. I do believe also that we've had some $30 and $25 offerings. Terri, you'd have to make that call. I know there'll be enough coming in to cover my initial outlay (vet), and we'd have to assume that we'll have enough to give you to cover your flight. There might not be anything left to hand over to any rescue groups, but we will have certainly done a tremendously good deed with regard to Lister (he responds to that now and doesn't even look for Orion ~ probably has a lot to do with the inflection in my voice ~ whatever ~just as long as he learns his new name).
Please let me know what's happening. If you do come down Terri, you'll want to secure your flight asap for that fare and to make sure that there'll be space available in the cabin for Lister on the return flight. As much as I love this little guy, I'd really appreciate it if he could go home this weekend. I can't risk getting any more attached than I am, my girls will deserve their normalcy back, and most importantly, Lister shouldn't get used to us. This rescue stuff is tough on the heartstrings even when the ending is happy.
Love and thanks to all. I'll stay on-line for awhile longer, but than it's
nighty-night for my girls and guy.
Wed, 8 Jul 1998 22:15:09 -0500
I just spoke to Petie on the phone...She will call me back tomorrow around 3:00pm IL time to fill me in on my flight plans. I'm on my way to Florida to bring Lister home. Susane...are you ready for a house guest, I'll fill you in with the details.
A big thank you to you Petie your a wonderful Person with a heart of gold. All that still want to send funds, let Susane or I know and we'll get you the address.
Good-Night to all of you,
Thu, 9 Jul 1998 00:36:13 EDT
You guys found this pup, pulled everyone together, saved the little guy, and now you're placing him with a wonderful new MOM. How much better can this story get???
Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:56:39 +0100
I should have written this last night but it was 1:30 when I finished on
the phone from talking with airlines and Toci was in a state of shock
because we weren't in bed and I hadn't een turned on the TV all evening...I
guess she thought I was then going to start watching and she'd NEVER get to
Thu, 9 Jul 1998 23:00:56 EDT
I've never really known what it was like to be a part of an interactive soap opera before -- now I do. Starting with the original posting about this garaged minpin and the feelings of sadness mixed with anger -- to that warm fuzzy glow, now that he will have a REAL family.
When I think back on the posts, I am not sure Terri knew what she was in for in when she 'volunteered.' I stayed on line that first evening for hours following the continuing saga of the 'garage pup.' Gradually the garage pup evolved into the list's pup and he had a new name. As soon as I came home from work I would check the e-mail to find out the status of Lister. I would try to read the posts in order so that I could follow the events as they unfolded. There were some emotional times.....would the rescue people allow a list of seemingly anonymous Internet people (you know what crazies those Internet people can be) to spirit away a rescue from their town? Would the ignorant and evil garage people change their mind? Would we all just forget the whole thing after 24 hours and move on with our lives? But the posts just kept coming and coming.....
I would never have believed that a group so diverse, so geographically spread out, so anonymous; could or would come together and pull this off. There are only a couple of things that we appear to have in common with one another.....we love minpins, we have computers, and we love minpins. Yet through all of this we found out that we have a lot more in common that first appears.
We went from saying 'Isn't that terrible"? "Somebody ought to do something about this," "I'll do this," "I can do that," "I'll give some money," "Count me in," to "Oh my God, just HOW are we going to do all this"? Now we have a web page, we have pictures, and we are approaching the "Look what we did" phase and it feels very good.
Many of the names on the list were recognizable, some had even engaged in heated 'discussions' over the net -- yet all were united in this one effort. If they couldn't support the effort financially, they were right there with the moral support and encouragement.
For many of us, this soap opera with a happy ending has provided us with the impetus to get more involved. That has to be one of the best things, next to Lister Orion Saluki's rescue (big name for a little dog) -- to come out of this loving effort. And there has been one other thing too, I think we 'know' each other a little better now, and while we will still continue to have 'heated discussions', I think we'll probably be a bit more respectful of one another in the future, for a while anyway.
I wanted to post this because I wanted everybody who has been involved -- not just Terri and Susan - to appreciate their roles in this effort. We're told that we can't all be heroes, but I disagree.
Pat and her rescues - Maya, Ruffs, Harley, and Begirt
Fri, 10 Jul 1998 07:14:11 EDT
<< Lister Orion Saluki's rescue (big name for a little dog) - >>
He wears it quite well.
Fri, 10 Jul 1998 19:35:59 -0500
Here are the flight times...
I leave Frt Myr. at 11:30am (Sun)flight #2480
I wont be in Orlando intill I'm already heading home with Lister.
Fri, 10 Jul 1998 22:00:18 -0500
I must say I'll be glad when this is over. The closer it gets to Sat. morning the more my stomach is knotting up. I am scared to death of planes and I sure didnt see this comming when all of this started.
I got a phone call from my grand-ma...shes having fits, I feel sorry for her and I wish this didnt hit the papers intill after I got back. She thinks I'm going to be kid-napped by a crazy inter-net person and I'll never be heard from again. I offered to call her from Susane's but she said no and if she lives thru this she'll call me Sunday night. Bless her heart she's so worried, it kinda takes some of the fun out of this for me.
But I'm Florida bound and I'm toting my camera so everyone will see how this "went down"
This will be my last post from my pc intill I get back.....Oh...I've been told that Indy and Central Il. are now on the same time, can anyone confirm this for me...I would hate to miss my flight, no one would believe I didnt do it on purpose.
Sat, 11 Jul 1998 05:58:09 -0500
We are about ready to head for Indy...Still assuming that they are on the same time as I am here in Fisher.
I'll get the camera out in Indy and start in.
Susane I'll be wearing a red "country style" t-shirt, blue shorts, blue tennis shoes and carring a black carry-on. At your request I'll leave the crates at home.
Off to Indy, talk at ya from Susane's.
Sat, 11 Jul 1998 13:37:50 EDT
Jean found a carrier for $25 incl. tax and she's driving it to Naples this afternoon.
Lister and I are getting ready to go to the airport to pick up Terri.
Stay tuned later this afternoon or early evening.
Sat, 11 Jul 1998 14:00:17 -0400 (EDT)
We've been having a drought for the last month or more, and NOW it decides to rain cats and dogs!! (Were those MinPins I saw coming down??)
I should be leaving here at about 2:30 and will be there about two and a half or so hours after that.
From Left - Susan,Lister,Terri,Jean
Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:17:03 EDT
Sat, 11 Jul 1998 23:10:05 -0400 (EDT)
And, he's going to have a wonderful home with Teri and her family! What a happy ending to a rather hectic several days, but I know Susan will have a hard time seeing him off tomorrow - he's sure a heart-string puller!! Can't believe anyone could let a dog get into the shape he had been in. He's put on weight, but his bones still show, a conditon that should continue to improve with the care that will continue at Terri's home.
It's was really terrific to be able to meet Terri; Susan and, of course, Goose, Lucy and Lexus - tt's always so nice to be able to put faces to names! We had lotsa "dog talk," a delicious dinner, and a really AWSOME Key Lime Pie!! Thanks again, Susan, for your wonderful hospitality!! And, Terri, have a safe and pleasant trip home tomorrow, with "our" godson!!
Well, it's getting late here, and my eyelids are falling down, but wanted to get this on the list before "crashing." ZZZZzzzzz....
Jean, Rado and Taz
Sun, 12 Jul 1998 07:53:05 -0400 (EDT)
I wanted to get this in before everyone got up this morning - I didn't check my answering machine till this morning, and there was a message from Nancy, Judi's friend in Miami. She had called to let me know she had gone to her vet's office yesterday morning, only to find that he really was out of them and no longer sold those soft-sided carry on bags. Then, trooper that she was, she had gone from there to several other vets in her area in an effort to find one for us, which is why I had been unable to reach her. However, the carry-on I ended up getting at a wholesaler looked to be very much like the style she had described to me, so all worked out well in the end, and Lister should look quite the smart pup this morning, in his new red carrier!
I'll call Nancy this morning and thank her for all her efforts, and, Judi, I promise not to wake her again at 7:30 in the morning, like I did yesterday - I'll wait just a tad later!!! ;-) She was great about it, though!!!
It's really amazing to see how so many people come together for this effort. I was there yestereday as Susan was opening the mail and, one after another, out came checks from loving, caring people. All the while, Lister was just playing with Lucy, Goose, and Lexus; trying to steal food from the table (sometimes being successful at it!); and just being the really happy pup he should be, totally unaware that his extended family includes so many loving Godparents all across the United States, and even in other countries!! On second thought, he probably does realize it, or at least sense it on some level, and that's but one of the reasons he's now such a happy, outgoing pup!! Maybe, whenever we wish we could give Lister a hug, we could give our own dogs that hug and, maybe, somehow, it would get passed on to Lister. Hey folks, we did GOOD!!!
Jean, Rado and Taz
Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:40:12 EDT
Well, he's on his way home and I'm pretty miserable. I know he'll be happy and well cared for, but I can't help loving him and wishing that he could be with me. I've been an emotional wreck since Thursday when we started to really bond, and it's only gotten worse.
Before we left the house this morning, he rested on my lap, lifting his head to give me a kiss once in awhile. I guess he sensed that I needed him and he came through for me.
My most sincere thanks to Terri for allowing him to be my little boy right until she boarded the plane. I held him throughout and assisted him into the carrier Jean got. I gave him one last kiss and walked away ~ I couldn't even look back. When he comes out of the carrier, he'll have a new mom, but this old one will always love him. I can no longer hold him in my arms, but I'll hold him in my heart where he'll stay forever. When my heart was breaking today, as Vivian said, he took a part with him.
When I got home, my girls greeted me and then went searching for Lister ~ into every room, around every corner. They're just finally starting to settle down. Their lives have normalcy back. Mine will never quite be the same.
Terri's sons sent their mother with a present for me ~ a stuffed black & tan dog who they've appropriately named Lister. He'll serve as a beautiful reminder of my baby boy. Thank you guys ~ you take care of the real Lister and I'll take care of this one.
I'm going to take a break from the list for awhile ~ if anyone wishes to contact me, please feel free to e-mail me privately.
Terri, take care of our baby. Lister you be my good boy. I love you and I'm so grateful that you came into my life, if only for a short time.
To all on the list who have provided financial and moral support, my most heartfelt thanks. To Jean, thank you for going the extra mile, literally, to help out with the carrier. Lister and I truly appreciate your kindness.
Take care everyone. Thanks again!
Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:07:19 -0400 (EDT)
It was really kinda hard to read your post with all the tears in my eyes :'-( because I knew how sincerely you meant every single word. It was so evident yesterday - the extent to which you loved this beautiful, smart, scrawny little pup, and how much he loved you - he even devised a way to wriggle through the arm of the patio chair to get to your lap, and practiced it so many times, thereafter!
I know he'll love Terri and her family every bit as much as he loves you, as he should, but I also know he will never forget his first "real" mom - the "Mom-Susan" who taught him what words like, "love," "caring," "the extra mile," and "I CAN DO THIS", were all about; and who demonstrated them so beautifully to a sad little minpin, and an email list that had no idea of what they were about to encounter or the rollercoaster ride they were about to embark on.
During this ride, we've cheared, cried and cussed, disagreed and argued, however, the most important thing is that we LEARNED! So many of us "newbies" never knew "rescues" existed, or even what they were, so this was a first step for us. But, just look what came out of it - there are people now looking to get on the lists, to sign up for the Underground runs, and some who are even looking to become involved in the more "serious" trenches of rescuing. Sure, some will fall by the wayside, get burned out, not have the time, etc., BUT there will be those here who will go on to continue where others left off.
I believe things happen for a reason, and I believe Lister was the reason for our list to make things happen. Who here hasn't been changed in some way, and who knows where it'll go from here?? And to think, all of this came about because of a sad, bedragled, garage-crated puppy who needed help; and who, in the end, became a teacher to all of us.
I do appreciate your thanks, Susan, however, I feel it should really be me thanking you, for allowing me to become some small part of this heart-warming saga. You and your family get some rest - you've worked long and hard, and your girls will help you fill the void that is so evident at this point.
Jean, Rado and Taz
Sun, 12 Jul 1998 17:46:56 EDT
Well, my girls and I just awoke from a much needed nap. I'm still 'in the dumps' and any thought of Lister starts the water fountain in my eyes and lump in my throat, but I can't go hide in a closet. I don't think Lister would want me to and the wonderful e-mails from so many of you this afternoon indicate that you don't want me to either. I guess I just thought that I needed some healing time, but maybe what I need is the support of my friends on this list ~ and the support has been there, apparently all afternoon.
So, I'm here.
With love and gratitude,
Sun, 12 Jul 1998 20:17:57 -0500
I know you have all been waiting for this post, sorry to keep you waiting. I tried to call Susane and got her ansewring mach. I wanted to talk to her before I posted.
Lister is doing great!!!! The airline people really went out of their way for us. I am so glad we did this the way we did, to say the least this little fellow does not like to fly. Susane sent me with a tranq. pill that I had hope we wouldnt have to use, but he was so scared and wanted out of that bag NOW, so I gave him the pill. Took him out of the bag and he slept on my lap. When we got to Orlando I put Lister back into the bag when we unboarded the plane. During our one hour wait for our flight home he ate some ice chips and settled into the seat next to me, laid his head in my lap, rolled those big eyes up at me and sighed. A flight attendent for the trip home heard me explaining Lister's story to a woman next to me. She approached me with tears in her eyes and said she wanted to board me on the plane now so we could get settled , she was afraid Lister would be upset with the crowd of people getting on the plane. They moved me to a section that had an open seat so I could take Lister out of the bag, after take-off.
Again he slept, curled up in my lap just as close as he could get.
After landing we still had a 2 1/2 hour car inwhich we both feel to sleep together.
Now that he is home he has explored all of his new rooms, played with his new sister (K.C.) and thinks that "catch the cat" is the coolest new game in the world!!! He is so calm and content, laying on the couch chewing raw-hides with K.C.
Susane has returned my phone call, this is still so imotional for both of us. I put the phone to Lister's ear and let them "talk" Lister's ears pirked up and he tried to look into the phone, he knew her voice with no doubt.
Now, I'm going to take both of my babies and go to bed, it has been a long 24 hours.
Thank you all for your help, I wish each and every one of you could hold and hug Lister, he is so special. I cant help but feel that God put this pup before us, so that we all can learn the true meaning of Love and Friendship, to test our wills, to show ourselves what we are made of.
Love you all,
Note from the Author:
|Final Words on Lister Orion Saluki
Fri, 8 Jan 1999 19:31:33 -0500
Sadly Lister is no longer with us. Those of us involved with his rescue
were notified by his owner on Nov 5 that he had been found missing from an
outside pen where he was placed Halloween night with another rescue Min
Pin. We immediately began efforts to aid in the search but were notified the
following day that they had been found with Lister dead and the other
barely alive.Although we had been told that all efforts to find them had
been employed we also discovered that neither the shelters in the area nor
the police had been notified. IMPS has since tried to verify the cause of
death or receive a death certificate in order to close the books and deal
with our pain but have not been successful.We believe that he may have been
given away or sold as the home failed to produce any documentation of his
For any comments, please email Petie at firstname.lastname@example.org.
|8 years later....
Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:59:38 -0800
On the Saluki Min Pin List, a first time reader of Lister's story wrote:
"Omg...I had never read the story of Lister...everything was going great...I was going numb from being glued to the screen for so long reading all the posts on the site. Till I got to the end and saw his fate...NO WAY....I was definately not expecting this...I'm really bummed and disappointed. I was expecting to see recently updated pictures. But to find out he hardly lived to be 1! I'm quite annoyed and angered now..."
Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:54:40 -0500
I prefer to remember how Lister Orion Saluki was brought into our world and what we have accomplished because of this one little dog. Strangers were united in a common goal to save this dog. And because of this one dog look at all we have accomplished we have truly become the persons our dogs think we are. Is it a sad story? The end is, but I always want to go back to what we have accomplished. What could have torn us apart and brought an end to our group before we had a chance to make such a difference, made us stronger and more committed. Instead of letting our anger, hurt, sadness, and deep disappointment envelop us, we kicked ass and we continue to do so to this day. Do not dwell on the dark side as it will inch its way into your very core. Instead look at the people who formed this wonderful organization and see if you cant find a way to help continue the fight to save just one more. IMPS is not just about rescue and fostering, it is about much more than that and if you are interested in pitching in you would be amazed how many things you can do not just fostering and grab hold of that wallet once in a while and let a donation fly in memory of that little dog whose story made you cry.
Today IMPS has over 2,000 volunteers covering the United States and Canada. Since that fateful day in 1998, over 15,000 Miniature Pinschers have crossed our doors.
Quite an accomplishment for little Lister...
To learn more about IMPS, please visit our webpage at www.minpinrescue.org.